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Before the world was fucked, the four horseman were probably the strongest devils in the universal hierarchy.

When death is removed, there becomes a massive power vacuum leading to new complex fears and negative feelings we probably can’t imagine.

These three are the embodiment of those horrors beyond our imagination. All three, (or the one who one shots Dennis) are probably the Great King of Terror.

Ultimately, (up ti

I think up until the church arc its above part 1 in a lot of aspects

However its clear a lot of character development and plot lines were dropped at that point which lead to a messy last 3rd and fast ending

The ending I believe was planned to always be how the series ends and I think it makes sense in the overall story and I don’t hate it nearly as much as most of reddit seems to hate it

The themes (and such) of part 2 is denji keeps making the wrong choice keeps wanting to be csm despite it hurting people he cares about. From his first part 2 appearance it is set up. Denji is trying to live less selfishly while Asa is trying to live more selfishly. Denji choosing to save a cat over people, Denji seeing Asa become a hero after the aquarium arc, Denji seeing his home burnt down, Denji losing Nayuta (which was a result of him wanting to be chainsawman), etc etc all leads up to him essentially failing and falling into a trap that is “being Chainsawman”.

Asa on the other hand is trying to come to terms with living life more fully despite always seeming to fail at a crucial moment. The affect that her trauma of her mom killing her dad, her mom dying to a devil because she wanted to save a cat, that cat she saved being killed by her caretaker afterwards, etc etc is the main cause. She tries to hide it but deep down she wants to be included, but every time she comes to that realisation herself she falls and it causes her to retreat back into her shell. She realizes right before she dies that she could have lived a more fulfilling life only for Yoru to take over it. She gets to experience some things she wanted to like freindship, dating, even being a “hero” but the cost of that is Yoru putting her life at risk to achieve the goal of trying to kill chainsawman, someone who she becomes infatuated with. It kills her chances of leading the life she wanted but she still tries to sympathize with Yoru, she still hopes that after she completes Yoru’s contract she can try to live again, and she still tries to save Denji from Yoru despite it putting her at even more risk to herself. Yoru’s last words to her directly are “The things you think are sins are nothing in a devil’s eyes” essentially saying to her that what was holding her back before Yoru took over in the bigger picture was nothing she couldnt overcome herself. When Asa gets her second chance in the new world, Denji (as Denji and not Chainsawman) is able to save Asa from tripping and killing bucky. She gets to have the realization with a full life ahead of her and not as a weapon.

Both these characters are “trying” to make the right choice, they are “trying” to do the right thing, but the circumstances of being Chainsawman or existing with Yoru make it impossible. Even Denji trying to save Asa/defeat Yoru in the end doesnt work because he doesnt do it as “Denji” he does it as “Chainsawman”.

Pochita was okay with denji living his dream until it lead to the end of the world and only then did he interfere. He truly wants Denji to keep dreaming and keep living and even though he knew for a while being CSM for Denji was hurting him he never stopped him from living his dream till there was no other option left. Pochita did not choose for Denji, Pochita sacrificed himself so Denji could keep trying to be better which I think is a massive distinction that a lot of people are overlooking. And not only lets him “keep dreaming” at the cost of his own existence (which he doesnt know the outcome of eating himself btw he is deleting himself for a CHANCE for Denji to try again) but also lets him try without having the pressure of being “Chainsawman” and letting him just be Denji.

The ending also doesnt mean that the entire manga “doesnt matter” both in the context of the story or in terms of enjoyment. As the reader, part of enjoying the series is the journy not just were it ends up. What you feel reading is important even if its rage or disappointment (although I didnt feel either personally). In terms of a literary sense, its clear that the world reset carried over some aspects of the original world/timeline. It is implied that characters still feel similar ways about characters they originally did (Like how meowy is fond of Nayuta even tho they havent met in this timeline for more than a few days). It also leaves it open ended for a lot of characters to have a better life. I understand how you could hate this but I really am of the opinion in terms of endings it isn’t remotely bad just sadly rushed.

The biggest fumble imo is Asa’s ending but I can look past that and accept that the series fumbled the bag on some aspects. Asa and Yoru were very interesting and while looking back they did get a conclusion to their character stories you barely got to sit on it before the series ended (especially Yoru).

Did some shit get dropped, yes. Was the ending rushed, yes. Is it the worst ending oat and ruins part 1, fuck no.

Csm still overall a 8/10 if we talkin about the whole series (Part 1 is a 9/10 and Part 2 is like a 6.5ish/10 IMO), the anime is also peak, the fan art is peak, the music made for the anime is peak, fuck it has peak as fuck art style and is really like nothing else I have ever read and I have read a lot of manga. Nothing could make me think its even in the same tier as “bad” even with its flaws.

I think a lot of problems with modern Manga discussion is self fulfilling prophecy in this age of slander and agenda. Nothing is able to be view with any nuance or middle ground or analyzed deeper than glazing or hating, agenda pushing or slandering. JJK and JJK Modulo ended and I thought both endings were fine, yet when they dropped people were acting like it was the worst ending OAT. Same happened for Naruto, same happened for AoT (which I am not even a fan of but I dont think it ended poorly at all), and I fear online it will happen with every upcoming Manga. Like yall havent read fuckin Shaman King you dont know what a bad day is lol

Thank you… Chainsawman